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Sunday, September 16, 2012

An audience with Mr. Heckler


11 comments:

  1. Well said, written and drawn. Exactly.

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  2. Question in need of answering here :

    Are Muslims capable of controlling their homicidal furies and behaving like rational humans or not?

    If they are capable of behaving reasonably then they are responsible for choosing to behave unreasonably - not just laughing off or ignoring the blatant and silly provocation provided by this ridiculous Z-grade movie trailer.

    If they are not, then clearly to stop them from being a clear and present danger to everyone else on the planet they need to be somehow constrained or destroyed much as rabid dogs are to prevent them (faultlessly and naturally) potentially biting and harming anyone and everyone in sight.

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    1. StevoR, you're wanted in this thread on Pharyngula: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/09/12/lets-not-get-confused/

      I have some observations about the homicidal and genocidal people known as Australians for you to address.

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    2. You think Aussies are "homicidal" and "genocidal?" Really? (Eyeroll.)

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  3. Muslims, StevoR? You mean, all 2 billion of them? They all have "homicidal furies" that require controlling so that they can behave like rational humans?

    Muslims are protesting without violence in various parts of the world. The number of Muslims protesting without harming anyone is vastly larger than that of those who are doing so violently, and the number who aren't protesting at all is larger still. So it seems to me like you're falsely presenting the issue in order to slander Muslims as a group, as if their membership in this religion uniquely predisposes them toward "homicidal fury." The evidence does not support this.

    Consider that the people who have been rioting are ignorant, for reasons largely beyond their control. They are accustomed to living in a society where blasphemy is forbidden, where it is considered legitimate for the government to punish it. The concept of free expression even if it offends someone is probably unknown to them. Consider this, and compare these Muslims to those living in America, where none of this is true. Are they rioting? Is there anything to fear from them?

    With these things in mind I find your comparison to rabid dogs ridiculous. I made a point in the comic to clarify that anyone has the ability to be a "heckler" by demonstrating a willingness to react to expression with violence, and I think the willingness of these people would be far more fairly attributed to their conditions than their faith. We don't need to acquiese to their demands in order to understand where they're coming from. This would, in fact, be an excellent opportunity to show them that it's possible to have a society where no hecklers are allowed to veto. I wish America would seize it.

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    1. Well I was asking that question based on their behaviour with rioting in Sydney - & giving toddlers signs saying "behead those who insult Islam" and the incident in Libya where they burnt down the US embassy and murdered people incl. the US ambassador - one of the many Americans who helped the Libyans gain their freedom form Gaddafi's tyranny.

      No, its not *all* Muslims I guess. Just too many of them.

      Is there something to fear from them? Yes. Just look what happened eleven years ago and look up terrorism generally. Okay there are non-Muslim terrorist groups too such as the IRA, Peru's Marxist Shining Path group and the Basque separatists however the vast majority of terrorists and attempted and actual terrorist attacks around the globe are Muslim groups motivated by extremist Islam. So, yeah, that is cause for concern don't you think?

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  4. "I hit the bitch because she intentionally pissed me off by going out with her friends."

    "Huh? Are you seriously telling me that isn't a legitimate domestic battery defense?"

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  5. SteveoR,
    the vast majority of terrorists and attempted and actual terrorist attacks around the globe are Muslim groups motivated by extremist Islam.

    That's false.

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

    If you're going to call people "rabid dogs" and advocate destroying them, don't you at least have an obligation to get your facts straight?

    In fact since most terrorist attacks in the U.S. and Europe are by white folks affiliated with Christianity, shouldn't we destroy those rabid dog white Christians?

    Just following your logic.

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  6. So, StevoR's solution to extremism & violence by Muslims, if one accepts one side of his false dichotomy, is

    If they are not [capable of behaving reasonably], then clearly to stop them from being a clear and present danger to everyone else on the planet they need to be somehow constrained or destroyed much as rabid dogs are to prevent them (faultlessly and naturally) potentially biting and harming anyone and everyone in sight.


    I hope StevoR is never ever in a position to enforce his bigotry.

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  7. "Well I was asking that question based on their behaviour with rioting in Sydney - & giving toddlers signs saying "behead those who insult Islam" and the incident in Libya where they burnt down the US embassy and murdered people incl. the US ambassador - one of the many Americans who helped the Libyans gain their freedom form Gaddafi's tyranny"

    Fifty people were arrested for that attack, which by the way was a pre-planned military assault not an uncontrolled outburst by people overcome with rage. In response around 30,000 people in Benghazi protested in support of the murdered ambassador and the HQ of the millitia group believed to be responsible was over run. So tell us again how the Lybians hate Americans and love Islamic extremism.

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